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Saraphim · Aug 17, 2007, 02:52 PM // 14:52

Well if Blizz are prepared to employ people to check chat logs from reports that's up to them. You can abuse it all you want, but if that person has done nothing wrong then they have nothing to worry about. Hardly ridiculous.

Edit: Btw, you can only use this function 5 times in any 24 hour period IIRC, which should be sufficient if you're not hanging around in Orgrimmar for the rest of your natural life.

It's easy to ignore whispers I find, but trying to sift through a constantly spamming gold seller in town while keeping an eye on general chat is a lot harder.

lyra_song · Aug 17, 2007, 03:04 PM // 15:04

i never get spammed.

._.

nobody likes me.

T_T

TheRaven · Aug 17, 2007, 03:14 PM // 15:14

This is just the tip of the iceberg. Arena net needs to stop this now before it gets seriously out of hand. There are too many MMO games out there now that are unplayable because of all the spam.

Personally, I have not had any spam whispers yet, but I sympathize with those that have. The current method of reporting is too unwieldy to be of any use. I tried to report someone once, and all I got was a return mail from support saying I sent the report to the wrong e-mail. I sent the report to the e-mail address recommended on the support screen.

Here are a few ideas that may work and be within budget for A-net.

- Like Saraphim suggested, add a clickable "report this user" button ingame.

- Report button should come with a "report category" that you click. (gold seller, spammer, hate speech, scamming)

- In order to stem abusive reporters, make it crystal clear that anyone who abuses the report system will be penalized.
For example: if you send in 10 reports within a certain time period that supports deems inappropiate, your account is flagged and a warning e-mail sent to the reporter that they are abusing the system. The e-mail should include a link to an official page detailing what is reportable and what isn't. If you send 25 inappropiate reports, you are banned for 6 hours. 50 reports, banned for 1 day. 100 reports banned for a week, etc, etc.

- Reports are prioritized in the support queue in order to catch gold sellers specifically quicker. All gold seller reports are sent to the top of the support queue. Users receiving more than 1 report are given more priority. Any user reported by more than 10 players is red flagged to be worked ASAP. (Unless the reporter has been flagged as a possible abuser)

- The report button is linked to the chat window. You can only report folks by clicking on their name in the chat window. You can't pick a name out of the blue and report them.

- Not sure if this one is do-able, but would be nice if it is. If you report someone from the guild or alliance chat the report goes directly to your guild leader instead of A-net support.

greendc27 · Aug 17, 2007, 03:22 PM // 15:22

I started getting them during the dragon festival. The biggest problem I see is that its too easy for them to just get another trial code and then pm more people even if they were banned. Maybe trial codes shouldn't be allowed to pm or something.

prism2525 · Aug 17, 2007, 03:25 PM // 15:25

Anet should ban anyone spamming anything with www.(something) in it in all chat.

Ghost Omel · Aug 17, 2007, 03:51 PM // 15:51

even though wrongly accused people will suffer and thast why they shouldnt puut it into the hands of the players to decide who inncocent and whos guilty
As of proof scrennshot will dom goos but butting by itself will only couse suspicion and constatnt fear of being reported for no reason

Saraphim · Aug 17, 2007, 04:12 PM // 16:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by prism2525

Anet should ban anyone spamming anything with www.(something) in it in all chat.

That could actually work. The simplest ideas are usually the best, only trouble is they'd probably just circumvent it the way people circumvent WTS.

Ghost, I'd reply to your post but to be honest I have no idea what "dom goos but butting" means.

End of day, out of all the MMOs I've played (which isn't a huge amount really) GW has the least amount gold spam I've seen.

korcan · Aug 17, 2007, 04:28 PM // 16:28

ive gotten 2 pms in the past month or so, is it really that big a deal? if i were constantly getting spamming with pms, maybe, but i doubt anyones gotten more then a handful in a period of a few weeks anyways.

LicensedLuny · Aug 17, 2007, 08:31 PM // 20:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow of Light

Actually, I do have an idea.

Have an option in your 'Friends' list that can let you 'disallow' anyone not acknowledged as a friend from PMing you. You can switch it on or off as you please. It doesn't get rid of the problem, of course, and it disallows perfectly friendly strangers from dropping you a line, but it might be an improvement.

I LIKE that idea! Make the setting so that you appear offline to anyone not on your friends list (maybe let guildies and alliance folks see your true status in addition to friends list, too.)

But it wouldn't fix this problem, since a lot of the people that enjoy the trading side of the game wouldn't be able to use it. They're the ones most likely to be targets of these gold seller whispers it seems. (And no, "just stop trading and play noob" isn't a solution either. Trading can be a lot of fun and like it or not, it's a legitimate way that some people enjoy the game.)

The report spam button seems like it would cause more harm than good due to dorks abusing it, yep.

I often use "www.guildwars.com", "www.guildwarsguru.com" and "www.guildwiki.com" in all chat when people are asking questions ... banning for putting ANY websites in local/trade/whispers seems a bad plan to me.

A friend of mine that does a lot of trading is getting the gold-seller whispers now, too. It happens when he's out playing, not just in towns. Different names, but always for the same site. I don't know if ANet can do scripts in real time, but how about auto-flagging any account that sends a message with a text string matching these gold sites? Maybe they already do that.

How about an account based text filter? If you're getting pestering whispers from gold sellers that always include a gold site you can add that string to your filter and block any incoming whispers that use it.

Is it just me, or are these mass whisper things just starting to get bad? I used to get the occasional gold seller whisper in Great Temple when waiting for someone, but they never kept at me after I left. I wonder what's happened that they suddenly have to hound people like this.

UnChosen · Aug 17, 2007, 09:45 PM // 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by rohara

its a prime time for gold sellers to be promoting their "goods" - loot scaling has made everyone but bots (and dupers!) broke, and a new expansion is on the horizon.

Key point right there. The best thing to do right now is to just keep yourself to offline when in town and hope that your friends don't message you right at that moment.

Ras Kass · Aug 17, 2007, 10:55 PM // 22:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by korcan

ive gotten 2 pms in the past month or so, is it really that big a deal? if i were constantly getting spamming with pms, maybe, but i doubt anyones gotten more then a handful in a period of a few weeks anyways.

I have received 3 in the amount of time I have played the past 2 days. Considering I had only received 1 prior to this (2 years), it just seems like a bad sign.

savage vapor 33 · Aug 17, 2007, 11:07 PM // 23:07

I like the idea of being able to set yourself to a certain mode where only people on your friends list, guild list, or alliance chat can pm u. Anyone else that is foreign or you have never seen won't be able to pm u.

RPGmaniac · Aug 18, 2007, 01:09 AM // 01:09

I suggested something like that a long time ago, though nobody liked it... but w/e.

I've never been PMed by a gold spammer, but I've seen them in the Great Temple of Balthazar a few times. If they ever pm me, I hope the iq rotting discussions will drown it out.

I MP I · Aug 18, 2007, 01:31 AM // 01:31

Never been spammed by gold sellers. Though I'm sure they'd make for better conversation then the people messaging me to join their guilds, give them money, or asking me to buy their crap. If there are people actually spamming you to buy gold, just screenshot it and send it to support. Should the problem persist, the wonderful ignore list comes in very handy.

tuna-fish_sushi · Aug 18, 2007, 03:39 AM // 03:39

Hmm I always thought that "BUY GOLD HERE 100k for 20 dollaz $$$ CHEAP$$$ www.xxxxxxx.com!~~$$$" was a great conversation starter. I really haven't had any pm's probably because I havent been any big cities because I have halted all my trading due to this Banning from anet.

Im sure if you get a screen shot of someone messaging that at you anet will do something about it. There is only so many accounts the company will buy before they are losing money.

Bob Slydell · Aug 18, 2007, 04:27 AM // 04:27

OMG in kamadan....i got several times...auto traded, some one with a strange name, like mentioned Iffgh Jkkk or somethign many times offered trade, i looked it was like all gold armors and all they said over and over was "30k ok" "30k ok" its annoying, this happened to me twice with the first guy and once again with someone else, no doubt these are trade bots.

BTW it was long time ago... i dont have screens but il lget some if it happens again.

Redfeather1975 · Aug 18, 2007, 04:34 AM // 04:34

Actually in EQ2 some people in a guild I was in started having fun with the gold selling tells.
They'd actually feign interest and ask more and more stupid questions until the person started to figure out they were being messed with and ignored them.

I have a friend who does this with telemarketers. I was there when he asked them to hold while he confers with his wife for a time they could call back to discuss it further. I was trying so hard not to laugh when he just put the phone down on the table, pretended to go talk to his wife, but instead went back to playing Tetris.

ShadowsRequiem · Aug 18, 2007, 04:37 AM // 04:37

actually it happened to me the other day, all of the sudden i'm outside kamadan checking my sword then "wwwBLAH BLAH BLAH GOLD 10.99 for 100k!"
stuff like that.

Neo Nugget · Aug 18, 2007, 05:21 AM // 05:21

Ive gotten one,i was kinda like...??????? and moved on lol.

oh wait i remember lol, i got a pm and told them to shutup lol......THEN i moved on =D

«Ripskin · Aug 18, 2007, 05:30 AM // 05:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by lyra_song

i never get spammed.

._.

nobody likes me.

T_T

They all know you're poor, like me

Lol, I haven't been spammed either.